How complete is the version of CodeWarrior that comes with the Tower?
Is the included development software like CodeWarrior Development Suite - Special which is severly limited?
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Permalink Reply by Eduardo Montanez on -
Dennis, the included version in Tower kit DVD is a professional license with 30 day evaluation license. After the 30 days expire it reverts to a special edition license which is limited to 64KB code size compilation. All other features are still like the professional edition.
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Permalink Reply by bchar on -
TowerGeeks, Freescale and Moto
So far not impressed, I need to see a better PPC 'price performance curve' on this products pricing and ease of use, Motorola should of have gotten a better price to the individuals developing the the platform for them. We need more free stuff, it is freescale isn't it. Put out the software kit for free now no extra conditions. No one uses CodeWarrior any more since Motorola burned the original company.
What is this digg anyway against Arduino and it's tools, it is a real 'open source'! This is such a vague scheme by freescale, trying to fool us into believing there is something on the horizon better than, and cheaper, it is always the big four CPU developers mantra. Sell sell sell, who cares if it works or not. 'Think differently' geeks, Arduino is for the masses not just the engineering geeks, who can only have a club of a few that understand this tower system. It already looks like a lower technology development kit (junk laying around the Lab).
Prove its not!! freescsle give away the store!
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Permalink Reply by WestfW on
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Oh it's not that bad. Inexpensive and highly capable "demonstration systems" are to be encouraged. TI an SI's "USB stick" demo systems were brilliant in their space, as were the Atmel Butterfly and the freescale JMBADGE board. The Tower system, with shared peripherals across multiple possible CPUs, is a nice continuation of the philosophy.
While this may be "arduino-like" ("shields") in some way, it was probably not a great idea to advertise "The Arduino is Dead." The Arduino is like a little puppy running around a community indiscriminately. Everybody likes puppies. Along comes the Tower with "your puppy is dead, here, we have this fully grown and trained pit-bull attack dog that's much better." Except that much of the community is afraid of pit-bulls. They aren't as cute as puppies. And you know how they can bite if mistreated?! And the Arduino community isn't the enemy anyway; many of them never wanted a full-grown dog of any kind. Just something to play with. It's an audience that needs to be coddled rather than intimidated. And I'm sorry, but bchar is basically correct: codewarrior (with ambiguous license terms) + MQX (with ambiguous terms) + all the other bits of the freescale IDE that may make coldfire attractive to skilled engineers are probably not very attractive to the arduino crowd as a whole. Not YET, anyway.
Now PART of the arduino crowd is people thinking about how to get the same sort of easy-to-use environment that is making arduino popular on some sort of bigger and faster processor. One with important peripherals like usb and/or ethernet built-in. Most of this group has been suggesting assorted arm-core chips, but I think it would be swell if it involved a coldfire instead. Coldfires being a bit more elegant than ARMs, IMO. Maybe we'll be able to push the Tower on a little more in the open-source direction, get it running some of the functions that the arduino crowd have gotten used to, compiling from gcc or non-commercial versions of codewarrior on multiple OS platforms. Or have fun trying, anyway. That's what I'm after.
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Permalink Reply by John Mc on -
Your puppy analogy was amusing. I don't know why exactly but it made me think of icanhazcheezeburgers.. hence below...
Anyways, I like where WestfW is going with the last paragraph of your thread. Why not make an easier-to-use environment and 100% open source?? It made me think of another site that has "easy-to-use" programming which I used on the JMBADGE.
http://www.stickosbasic.com/downloads.htm
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Permalink Reply by Moises on
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Freescale may have a better chance of winning more developers and engineers alike if they where to give away their compilers and just concentrate their selling efforts on the chips and hardware.
It is a hassle to have to deal with time expiring tools that at times you just don't bother.
Other chip manufactures like ST Microelectronics, Cypress and NXP are moving in that direction with their ARM Cortex M3 chips.
If Freescale were to just provide for free their compilation tools, more and more engineers and developers will give the coldfire another look.
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